White orc in the hobbit book

Tolkien in his preface to the hobbit, orc is not an. Rubies costume mens hobbit 2 desolation of smaug adult overhead azog mask. Azog the defiler the hobbit film trilogy wikia fandom. Ink sketch of the pale orc from the hobbit movies azog the defiler deviantart is the worlds largest online social community for artists and art enthusiasts, allowing people to connect through the creation and sharing of art. But in the hobbit, azog and others only know the black speech. This has been a matter of widespread debate and misunderstanding, mostly resulting from the usage in the the hobbit tolkien had changed his mind about it by the lord of the rings but the confusion in the earlier book was made worse by inconsistent backwards modifications.

Lurtz is a urukhai so hes generally stronger than most orcs and goblins but the pale orc may be an exception. Why do orcs in the hobbit look different than in the lord. Azog stabs lurtz with his sword and lurtz pulls the sword into his stomach for. He smacked the elf body over onto its back with his multiridged mace. See the awesome practical orc who was painted over in. Yazneg, the orc who had previously led the pack, apologizes to his master for the dwarves escape. In the book the orc leader is bolg, son of azog and the orc commander in the battle of five armies. Bolg was an orc leader of the misty mountains during the late third age, after his father azog was killed at moria. In the book of lost tales and other earlier writings both terms appear, and are often used synonymously. Azog, the white orc by wouter schaap the hobbit, fantasy. Jacksons first mistake was trying to make a trilogy at all. Also it was a reasonable cinematic plot device to keep thorin in the dark about the fact that azog was still alive. Why are the dwarves being followed by orcs in the first. The movie explains, not very coherently, that azog the goblin the white orc has been searching for thorin pretty much his whole life ever since thorin cut off one of his arms in battle outside the gates of moria many years earlier.

Latex orc chieftain mask search rubies and azog for a full collection of orc costumes, masks, and costume accessories. Dec 18, 2012 why is the hobbit movie so different from the book. Dec 19, 2014 this is obviously meant to tie the hobbit into the lord of the rings trilogy, which is understandable because this is, after all, a prequel, but again, whether one is willing to sit through such slow scenes depends on the nature. From a tolkien faq they are different names for the same race of creatures. An unexpected journey guide book to be the warg matriarch of the gunbabad wargs. The giant orc, easily over 7 feet tall, was crouched down, bending down upon himself until he was eye level of a hobbit. Do orcs from different parts of middleearth all speak the black speech. He is about to kill the hobbit when the moth returns to gandalf.

An unexpected journey, the first installment of peter jacksons film trilogy based on j. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat. An unexpected journey really comes to life during the bits when it actually sticks to the story. Mar 19, 20 bolg, in the movies is killed by legolas. Most of the orcs and wargs are killed by the eagles, but azog, his white warg, and a few of the orc riders are left alive.

Were there orcs in the hobbit novel i saw the movie and i know for a fact that the white orc was not mentioned at all. Azog gives the command to kill the hobbit, but the rest of the dwarves suddenly charge in before the orcs can attack. R tolkien that takes place in the fictional world of middle earth, which is the setting of most of the authors works. Tolkien wrote the hobbit in a large part as a metaphor for britains loss of innocence after wwi where he served as a young man del toro when he was working on the film and peter jackson both knew this was one of the huge themes of the book and are honoring it as such. Hell, for all we know, bilbos literary agent kept convincing him to punch up the action so it could compete with hobbit john grisham. In the two towers, the urukhai are described briefly as goblins. He is a whiteskinned orc, known as the pale orc or azog the defiler. Dec 19, 2012 maybe the white skin of azog in the movie is some nod to disfigured orc gothmog from return of the king, symbolically representing stronger breed of orcs who becomes leaders, just a random thought. After a short fight, azog personally directs his attention toward bilbo. With the first installment of the new trilogy, an unexpected journey, were finally getting an idea of how it will work and though the story sticks closely to the big beats of the book you. It is absolutely correct to say that thror was killed by by an orc named azog. Another orc stepped into her view and growled out something. Dec 19, 2014 the tolkien nerds guide to the hobbit.

Among these wargs is a larger one with a white pelt that azog rides, revealed in the hobbit. The company is instead trapped by a group of wargs who live in the area. Jan 11, 20 diane asks, referring to the film the hobbit. Its the hobbit with the surrounding background notes and lore, and, it seems, some creative license from peter jackson the white orc doesnt make an appearance in the book, and this is a larger break from the original than having arwen feature instead of glorfindel in fellowship of the ring. I tried getting up but failed miserably when i remembered i had new stitches on the side of my stomach. The five most irritating ways peter jacksons the hobbit. There are some differences between the hobbit book and the new film. An unexpected journey, the orc leader was azog the defiler, a particularly large, treacherous white orc brought to the screen with computer graphics. Azog is large, covered in scars, and most noticeably, is pale as snow. In tolkiens works, orcs are a brutish, aggressive, ugly and malevolent race, contrasting with the benevolent elves and serving an evil power, though they share a human sense of morality. Was azog as strong and powerful in the hobbit book as he is in the movies.

Sensibilities and instincts chapter 1, a hobbit fanfic. The battle of the five armies picks up where the desolation of smaug left off. Tolkien had several subspecies of orcs in the lord of the rings, you get to see three separate races of them in the two towers the book when merry and pippin are prisoners, which was the reason behind a lot of the fighting and lack of discipline. Azog is described in the appendices as a great orc with a huge. Maybe the white skin of azog in the movie is some nod to disfigured orc gothmog from return of the king, symbolically representing stronger breed of orcs who becomes leaders, just a random thought. He leads a band of hunter orcs and rides a huge white warg. Dec 17, 2012 the pale orc, azog, is not as dead as we thought. While it is strictly canon that an orc named azog fought the.

Azog battles thorin when the vengeful white orc and his horde finally catch up. While it is strictly canon that an orc named azog fought the dwarves at khazaddum and that he killed thorins grandpa, this pale mothercker does not feature in the hobbit. My friends said there was an orc leader its just that he was not white. Her heart pounded in her ears as the white orc picked the glowing stone up. Hence, azogs honorific of the white orc may simply be an acknowledgement of the arbitrary distinctions the filmmakers use to help the audience avoid confusion. Azog does not appear in the hobbit, having been killed by dain ii ironfoot many years earlier in the story. In the hobbit, most mentions are of goblins, while in the lord of the rings, most mentions are of orcs.

Tolkien the hobbit, or there and back again is a fantasy novel by english author j. It was published on 21 september 1937 to wide critical acclaim, being nominated for the carnegie medal and awarded a. In the book the hobbit azog is little more than just a name. Orcs were brought into modern usage by the fantasy writings of j. Legolas orlando bloom fights bolg conan stevens and goes on an orc killing spree, while thorin richard armitage begins his final battle with azog manu bennett. In the movies azog kills more major characters thror. He basically says that goblin is the english translation of orc. Early in the fellowship of the ring, the wizard gandalf describes saruman as the chief of my order and head of the white council that forced sauron from mirkwood at the end of tolkiens earlier book the hobbit. These events are related by the narrator, gandalf and thorin during the. The battle of the five armies 2014 cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more. Rubies mens hobbit 2 desolation of smaug adult overhead azog mask, multi, one size. Part of thorins richard arbitage backstory is a fight with a really nasty orc who killed his grandfather. Hence, azogs honorific of the white orc may simply be an acknowledgement of the.

The hobbit tells a fantastic story of adventure, danger, friendship, and courage, and serves as a prequel to the even more immersive and epic book series, the lord of the rings. However, he is unable to attack them due to beorn patrolling the area in. Yes, as the nameless elvenking in the hobbit book, he came off as a suspicious, ignorant, xenophobic greedy jerk who mistreated thorin and co for no reason, he was ever eager for more treasure despite being rich and tried to claim erebors wealth as his own. He is also the secondary antagonist in the desolation of smaug. The five most irritating ways peter jacksons the hobbit deviated. In tolkien books, orc and goblins are interchangeable due to the authors decision that goblins and their lore are romance based in literature and the creatures in books are not so.

Any guidance as to where i could read about the orcs would be much appreciated. Mar 14, 2017 thorin vs azog, eagles vs wargs battle at the burning pines 1080 hd engcinema. The hobbit calls him an elffriend rather than an elf, one who had both elves and heroes of the north for ancestors. An unexpected journey, however, is an entirely different movie. Hes the son of azog the defiler, the pale white orc introduced in an unexpected journey, and hes actually in the book the hobbit, where he plays a role in the battle of the five armies at the. He is the son of thrain ii, grandson of thror, and becomes king of durins folk during their exile from erebor. Things that make no sense about the hobbit trilogy screenrant. Fili very gently pushed me into a tree where lo and behold kili. He is the father of bolg and the archenemy of thorin oakenshield. When it appears that thorin is about to be killed, bilbo jumps to his aid and rescue him. Azog is the only orc ranked by the fact that his warg is white, whilst the others ride brownfurred wargs. It has, at this point, become a bit obvious to point out the lack of female characters in childrens entertainment. I bolt straight up and look to thorin who looked at me.

In timeline of the book, azog is dead i think but in the film i think they added azog to add in. Why do orcs in the hobbit look different than in the. Thorin vs azog, eagles vs wargs battle at the burning pines. How faithful is peter jacksons hobbit to tolkiens book. At weathertop, the pack of orcs and wargs that had chased thorins company earlier congregate and discuss their hunt.

Sure, its set in the world of middle earth, but thats really about all it holds in common with the aforementioned trilogy, alongside a few familiar faces. The desolation of smaug azog continues his vengeance against thorin, tracking the dwarves to beorns house. The battle of the five armies the final chapter in peter jacksons trilogy strays furthest from the book, but there are still a few buried easter. Azog is depicted in the hobbit film trilogy as the wrathful, psychopathic, ironfisted, malevolent, bloodthirsty, insidious, cynical, bitter, malicious, arrogant and merciless. In the hobbit, bolg was the son of azog of moria, succeeding him after his death in the battle of azanulbizar the last battle of the war of the dwarves and orcs in ta 2799 by dain ii ironfoot. The dwarf prince thorin, grandson of the king under the. Why did peter jackson change the hobbit from the book.

The introduction of my copy of the fellowship of the ring has an introduction by tolkien in which he explains that in the hobbit he was writing a childrens book, and so used goblin rather than orc. He notes sarumans great knowledge of the magic rings created by sauron and by the elvensmiths. He was also keeping his distance, hand extending out to offer the water, close enough to reach, but far enough away to give an illusion of distance and safety for the hobbit. Was azog, the white orc leader, in the hobbit book.

Are the hobbit movies just an adaptation of bilbos book. Thorin is the leader of the company of dwarves who aim to reclaim the lonely mountain from smaug the dragon. Dec 11, 2012 with the first installment of the new trilogy, an unexpected journey, were finally getting an idea of how it will work and though the story sticks closely to the big beats of the book you. Why is the hobbit movie so different from the book. He is a white skinned orc, known as the pale orc or azog the defiler.

Dec 20, 2012 were there orcs in the hobbit novel i saw the movie and i know for a fact that the white orc was not mentioned at all. Here are 20 things about the films that make zero sense. An unexpected journey 2012 cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more. I hold my side in pain and was about to give up when fili ran over to me and picked me up. Like, maybe there was no giant white orc at all, but bilbo knew the pacing of the real story was off a little and decided to spice things up. In it, duncan imagines the real senator theodore g bilbo the early 20thcentury, white supremacist senator of mississippi opposing the immigration of orcs in tolkiens shire in a post. An orc rk is a fictional humanoid creature akin to a goblin. Throughout the events of the hobbit trilogy, a pack of wargs are in the service of azog, who had survived the skirmish at moria. Azog, a giant white orc known as, the defiler, beheads thror, but instead of being killed by thorin, thorin cuts off his left forearm and azog is dragged back into moria by his orcs.

Five things changedexpanded from the book for the hobbit films. Yeah, sometimes you have to change stuff from book to film. In the movies azog kills more major characters thror, fili, and thorin than any other villain in the middleearth franchise. Yazneg, the orc who had previously led the pack, apologizes to his. For the most part, goblins are smaller orcs orcs are larger goblins.

In the lord of the rings films, the orcs are shown to speak in the common tongue. Azog is the main antagonist of an unexpected journey and the battle of the five armies. Later in the film, an orc captain, yazneg, reports his failure to kill the dwarves back to azog, and is thrown to the wargs by him with an orc pack camping on weathertop. The meeting of the white council is mentioned in the appendices of return of the king, but it is never discussed or even alluded to in the hobbit. An unexpected journey, we see the battle of anazulbizar in a flashback narrated by balin. Azog is played by manu bennett via motioncapture and cg though he was originally intended to be played by conan stevens in a practical costume and makeup. Even by the standards of the fantasy genre, a lot of the hobbit trilogy doesnt quite add up.